Bill to make UNC and NC State play ECU, App, and UNC Charlotte is dead (2024)

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https://www.wral.com/story/unc-nc-state-.../21470056/

Proposed legislation that would require University of North Carolina and North Carolina State University to play each other and other in-state public universities in football and basketball will not advance any further, House Speaker Tim Moore said Thursday.

"It's had the hearing it will have," Moore said. "It had a committee hearing. I told them they could hear it in committee, but it won't come to the floor."

Moore's comment comes after the House committee on universities advanced the bill. The bill would require UNC and NC State to play each other annually in football and men's and women's basketball, a nod to potential conference realignment that could impact the ACC, the schools' long-time conference.

The legislation would also require the two schools to play one of Appalachian State, East Carolina and UNC-Charlotte annually and to play each of them home and away over a six-year period in football and men's and women's basketball.

"The kids want to play these games, the fans want to see these games," said Rep. David Willis, a Union County Republican and sponsor of the bill. "These local games drive a lot more attendance and therefore a lot more dollars."

Willis, who spoke to WRAL moments before Moore told reporters the bill would not advance, said he planned to move the bill and have it pass this session.

"We would like this to be ongoing and continuous so that we don't get this series of games and the next AD or whoever was involved at that point at time just kind of leaves it," said Willis, an App State graduate.

NC State had home-and-home series scheduled with App State, Charlotte and ECU between 2025 and 2031. But NC State will not play App State as scheduled in 2025 after adding a non-conference game with ACC rival Virginia.

"I'd be lying if I didn't say it didn't play a little bit of a role," Willis said. "But this started before that. It comes back to the long-term sustainability of all our athletic programs."

Y'all should read some of the stupid theories about this bill advanced on the realignment board. It's downright amazing just how ignorant people from outside NC are about NC politics.

(This post was last modified: 06-06-2024 05:35 PM by SouthernConfBoy.)

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(06-06-2024 05:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: https://www.wral.com/story/unc-nc-state-.../21470056/

Proposed legislation that would require University of North Carolina and North Carolina State University to play each other and other in-state public universities in football and basketball will not advance any further, House Speaker Tim Moore said Thursday.

"It's had the hearing it will have," Moore said. "It had a committee hearing. I told them they could hear it in committee, but it won't come to the floor."

Moore's comment comes after the House committee on universities advanced the bill. The bill would require UNC and NC State to play each other annually in football and men's and women's basketball, a nod to potential conference realignment that could impact the ACC, the schools' long-time conference.

The legislation would also require the two schools to play one of Appalachian State, East Carolina and UNC-Charlotte annually and to play each of them home and away over a six-year period in football and men's and women's basketball.

"The kids want to play these games, the fans want to see these games," said Rep. David Willis, a Union County Republican and sponsor of the bill. "These local games drive a lot more attendance and therefore a lot more dollars."

Willis, who spoke to WRAL moments before Moore told reporters the bill would not advance, said he planned to move the bill and have it pass this session.

"We would like this to be ongoing and continuous so that we don't get this series of games and the next AD or whoever was involved at that point at time just kind of leaves it," said Willis, an App State graduate.

NC State had home-and-home series scheduled with App State, Charlotte and ECU between 2025 and 2031. But NC State will not play App State as scheduled in 2025 after adding a non-conference game with ACC rival Virginia.

"I'd be lying if I didn't say it didn't play a little bit of a role," Willis said. "But this started before that. It comes back to the long-term sustainability of all our athletic programs."

Y'all should read some of the stupid theories about this bill advanced on the realignment board. It's downright amazing just how ignorant people from outside NC are about NC politics.

Do you think proposing the bill has an affect on scheduling going forward? Will the UNCCH and NCSu ADs be more inclined to include them on the schedules more regularly to avoid this coming up again?

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(06-06-2024 07:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:

(06-06-2024 05:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: https://www.wral.com/story/unc-nc-state-.../21470056/

Proposed legislation that would require University of North Carolina and North Carolina State University to play each other and other in-state public universities in football and basketball will not advance any further, House Speaker Tim Moore said Thursday.

"It's had the hearing it will have," Moore said. "It had a committee hearing. I told them they could hear it in committee, but it won't come to the floor."

Moore's comment comes after the House committee on universities advanced the bill. The bill would require UNC and NC State to play each other annually in football and men's and women's basketball, a nod to potential conference realignment that could impact the ACC, the schools' long-time conference.

The legislation would also require the two schools to play one of Appalachian State, East Carolina and UNC-Charlotte annually and to play each of them home and away over a six-year period in football and men's and women's basketball.

"The kids want to play these games, the fans want to see these games," said Rep. David Willis, a Union County Republican and sponsor of the bill. "These local games drive a lot more attendance and therefore a lot more dollars."

Willis, who spoke to WRAL moments before Moore told reporters the bill would not advance, said he planned to move the bill and have it pass this session.

"We would like this to be ongoing and continuous so that we don't get this series of games and the next AD or whoever was involved at that point at time just kind of leaves it," said Willis, an App State graduate.

NC State had home-and-home series scheduled with App State, Charlotte and ECU between 2025 and 2031. But NC State will not play App State as scheduled in 2025 after adding a non-conference game with ACC rival Virginia.

"I'd be lying if I didn't say it didn't play a little bit of a role," Willis said. "But this started before that. It comes back to the long-term sustainability of all our athletic programs."

Y'all should read some of the stupid theories about this bill advanced on the realignment board. It's downright amazing just how ignorant people from outside NC are about NC politics.

Do you think proposing the bill has an affect on scheduling going forward? Will the UNCCH and NCSu ADs be more inclined to include them on the schedules more regularly to avoid this coming up again?

State has played ECU in 10, 13, 16, 18, 19, 22, and will again in 25 and 28.
The ASU home and away was a shock when it was announced. I suspect it will be moved to 27 and 29. UVa and NC State have two games with FSU scheduled for 25 and 26 so it's a bit of future prevention to schedule each other in case FSU bolts with little notice. NC State has a series with Charlotte scheduled for 30 and 31. Mack Brown really set this into motion when he announced he didn't want to play App State or anyone in state again. The real thrust of the legislation is to make UNC play ECU again and to make sure that NC State does not completely cancel on ASU.

It is the scheduling of the games as much as the games themselves that is problematic. There is very little room to maneuver. Only a fool agrees to go to Boone after October 15th (1500 feet higher than Blacksburg). Likewise you have to be somewhat of a fool to be in Eastern NC in early September as you await the latest hurricane.

Also keep in mind that such meddling by App State and ECU alums could cause future games with WF and Duke to be imperiled if UNC and NC State end up in different conferences. The political pull of Duke and WF is as least as strong as ASU and ECU combined.

(This post was last modified: 06-06-2024 08:33 PM by SouthernConfBoy.)

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(06-06-2024 08:25 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:

(06-06-2024 07:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:

(06-06-2024 05:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: https://www.wral.com/story/unc-nc-state-.../21470056/

Proposed legislation that would require University of North Carolina and North Carolina State University to play each other and other in-state public universities in football and basketball will not advance any further, House Speaker Tim Moore said Thursday.

"It's had the hearing it will have," Moore said. "It had a committee hearing. I told them they could hear it in committee, but it won't come to the floor."

Moore's comment comes after the House committee on universities advanced the bill. The bill would require UNC and NC State to play each other annually in football and men's and women's basketball, a nod to potential conference realignment that could impact the ACC, the schools' long-time conference.

The legislation would also require the two schools to play one of Appalachian State, East Carolina and UNC-Charlotte annually and to play each of them home and away over a six-year period in football and men's and women's basketball.

"The kids want to play these games, the fans want to see these games," said Rep. David Willis, a Union County Republican and sponsor of the bill. "These local games drive a lot more attendance and therefore a lot more dollars."

Willis, who spoke to WRAL moments before Moore told reporters the bill would not advance, said he planned to move the bill and have it pass this session.

"We would like this to be ongoing and continuous so that we don't get this series of games and the next AD or whoever was involved at that point at time just kind of leaves it," said Willis, an App State graduate.

NC State had home-and-home series scheduled with App State, Charlotte and ECU between 2025 and 2031. But NC State will not play App State as scheduled in 2025 after adding a non-conference game with ACC rival Virginia.

"I'd be lying if I didn't say it didn't play a little bit of a role," Willis said. "But this started before that. It comes back to the long-term sustainability of all our athletic programs."

Y'all should read some of the stupid theories about this bill advanced on the realignment board. It's downright amazing just how ignorant people from outside NC are about NC politics.

Do you think proposing the bill has an affect on scheduling going forward? Will the UNCCH and NCSu ADs be more inclined to include them on the schedules more regularly to avoid this coming up again?

State has played ECU in 10, 13, 16, 18, 19, 22, and will again in 25 and 28.
The ASU home and away was a shock when it was announced. I suspect it will be moved to 27 and 29. UVa and NC State have two games with FSU scheduled for 25 and 26 so it's a bit of future prevention to schedule each other in case FSU bolts with little notice. NC State has a series with Charlotte scheduled for 30 and 31. Mack Brown really set this into motion when he announced he didn't want to play App State or anyone in state again. The real thrust of the legislation is to make UNC play ECU again and to make sure that NC State does not completely cancel on ASU.

It is the scheduling of the games as much as the games themselves that is problematic. There is very little room to maneuver. Only a fool agrees to go to Boone after October 15th (1500 feet higher than Blacksburg). Likewise you have to be somewhat of a fool to be in Eastern NC in early September as you await the latest hurricane.

Also keep in mind that such meddling by App State and ECU alums could cause future games with WF and Duke to be imperiled if UNC and NC State end up in different conferences. The political pull of Duke and WF is as least as strong as ASU and ECU combined.

So you're sayin' we've got a chance!

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(This post was last modified: 06-07-2024 07:59 AM by GTFletch.)

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(06-06-2024 08:01 PM)XLance Wrote: The idea of playing State every year isn't a deal breaker, it's having to play ECU, APP and now Charlotte on a rotating basis means it is dead forever.

I'm going to call it now: the NC legislature will eventually pass a law stating that UNC and NC State must play each other plus at least one of Duke or Wake Forest every year, and always home-and-home. The other schools? IDK about that.

(This post was last modified: 06-07-2024 08:04 AM by Hokie Mark.)

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(06-07-2024 08:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:

(06-06-2024 08:01 PM)XLance Wrote: The idea of playing State every year isn't a deal breaker, it's having to play ECU, APP and now Charlotte on a rotating basis means it is dead forever.

I'm going to call it now: the NC legislature will eventually pass a law stating that UNC and NC State must play each other plus at least one of Duke or Wake Forest every year, and always home-and-home. The other schools? IDK about that.

The State Legislature can influence but not control Duke and Wake Fores's schedules.

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O Bill to make UNC and NC State play ECU, App, and UNC Charlotte,
we hardly knew ye.

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(06-07-2024 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:

(06-07-2024 08:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:

(06-06-2024 08:01 PM)XLance Wrote: The idea of playing State every year isn't a deal breaker, it's having to play ECU, APP and now Charlotte on a rotating basis means it is dead forever.

I'm going to call it now: the NC legislature will eventually pass a law stating that UNC and NC State must play each other plus at least one of Duke or Wake Forest every year, and always home-and-home. The other schools? IDK about that.

The State Legislature can influence but not control Duke and Wake Fores's schedules.

Excellent point! So maybe just UNC/NC State, with a strong suggestion to play the others?